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General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 02-04-13 02:37 AM EDT (US)         
So, warlords of Pontus, we begin our quest for world domination and the fair land of Italia:





Please give your advice and comments below.

Our current order for Supreme Commander is:
1- General Sajaru
2- Hannibal the Conqueror
3- Average Citizen
4- Bulba Khan

Drop-In Generals (offered a chance at end of every cycle):
Alex the Bold

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own

[This message has been edited by General Sajaru (edited 04-12-2013 @ 11:26 AM).]

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Bulba Khan
Ashigaru
(id: stormer)
posted 04-11-13 04:59 PM EDT (US)     101 / 131       
Ill play it tonight and send it the night after.
Hannibal the Conqueror
Ashigaru
(id: HannibalBarcaXXI)
posted 04-12-13 01:05 AM EDT (US)     102 / 131       
How about we conquer the entire map for a change? We never did that.

"I long for Darkness."
- Cormac McCarthy, The Sunset Limited.

"We are a species that ravages, plunders, kills, destroys, rapes and enslaves in the name of progress."
General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 04-12-13 11:29 AM EDT (US)     103 / 131       
I have this feeling that it's going to take us long enough to get 50 territories, let alone the whole map. I've played a few games where I have close to all 102 territories, but that's taken me a really long time (in real time) as well as most of the 280 years of game time.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
Alex_the_Bold
Ashigaru
posted 04-12-13 04:00 PM EDT (US)     104 / 131       
How about setting a more feasible goal: let's destroy all Roman factions...

Invincibility lies in defence, while the possibility of victory in the attack -Sun Tzu
Akouson me, pataxon de (hit me, but first listen to me)-Themistocles to Euribiadis prior to the battle of Salamis.
Bulba Khan
Ashigaru
(id: stormer)
posted 04-15-13 04:18 AM EDT (US)     105 / 131       
Thats easy. :P update coming up tonight, been a bit busy with work, now that ive quit, ive got loads of time.
Thompsoncs
Ashigaru
posted 04-15-13 05:33 AM EDT (US)     106 / 131       
Destroying the roman factions is hardly a challenge anymore at your current point in the game.

When I got bored with my private Pontus game, I had 4 regions left to conquer for victory with 50 regions. And it was 220 BC, not sure what the exact end date is though.

General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 04-15-13 09:29 AM EDT (US)     107 / 131       
You're looking pretty good there Thompsoncs; the end date is around 10 AD, as I recall.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
SongsOfBeitar
Ashigaru
posted 04-15-13 12:37 PM EDT (US)     108 / 131       
Wow, it looks like you took the roman factions and colored them blue. You even sacrificed your home to fulfill your conquest.
Thompsoncs
Ashigaru
posted 04-15-13 03:17 PM EDT (US)     109 / 131       
That's because like this swap game, it was a challenging migration campaign, that turned out to be easier than expected. The main reason for my fast expansion was my clean victory over the SPQR. I did not face a single attack from the scipii or brutti in italy after I took their cities there. So instead of being forced to turtle to defend south italy, I could steamroll the Julii.

After that it's easy. You have phalanxes, carthage is underpowered (especially when commanded by the computer), Spain isn't much of a match, Britons die easy at spearpoints, germanics are a bit tough, but still no match. In the east the Greeks are a bit of an issue due to their better armoed hoplites, yet they entirely lack decent cavalry. If I will continue this, egypt will be the biggest problem. The roman reforms did not happen, so the egyptian generals are still annoying missile chariots. And their archers are much better. Their chariots mean I can't use my cavalry as well as I would like and their phalanx is only a bit weaker than the pontic onces. Egypt is always a nightmare to fight, no matter which faction I use.

And egypt owns about everything to the east of me. They even took lepcis magna before I declared war and took it from them.
Bulba Khan
Ashigaru
(id: stormer)
posted 04-15-13 07:12 PM EDT (US)     110 / 131       
Beseieged arretium, the julii sallied and got their arse handed to them, they lost 1500 men while i only lost 200, i capture it the next turn and thanks to a spy i capture segesta and patavium in the same turn with minimal casuslties, two turns later we captured mediolanum, however with big losses, after destroying a julii army i captured iuvavum. I spent two years consolidating.
I ended my reign by slaughtering 1500 brutii for minimal loses and putting caralis, apollonia and segestica under seige.
In short, we doubled our territory, we have 3 cities under seige, plus massila looks tempting. Get caralis and we remove the julii. I suggest we move on to sicily next then the balkans.
General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 04-15-13 07:41 PM EDT (US)     111 / 131       
Wow. You're just whipping along, Bulba. Good going. I shall work on my turns shortly (I hope, if school doesn't make me too busy).

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
Bulba Khan
Ashigaru
(id: stormer)
posted 04-16-13 04:28 AM EDT (US)     112 / 131       
Ive got to thank the other players for such solid foundations, I havent played RTW for 6 months before this swap, now im feeling a new campaign.
General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 04-23-13 01:43 AM EDT (US)     113 / 131       
Sorry this took so long folks, but here it is:

To begin, I took Segestica (result), Apollonia (result, also, wardogs don't fare very well against peltasts and Cretans), and Caralis (result), which wiped out the Julii. Also, while Onagers are terribly slow on the campaign map, I love them in city battles (one and two); they even killed a few enemy.

The Brutii also put a larger army on a single bireme, which I sank .

On the northern coast of the Ionian, the Macedonians were out in force, but the Brutii scared them off.

In my last turn, I took Massilia (result).

I leave us here, with a large treasury surplus.

I've passed the save on to Hannibal.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
Hannibal the Conqueror
Ashigaru
(id: HannibalBarcaXXI)
posted 04-23-13 05:58 AM EDT (US)     114 / 131       
Nice work, Bulba and Sajaru!

I shall resume my reign either today or on Thursday, due to the exams I have at the moment.

"I long for Darkness."
- Cormac McCarthy, The Sunset Limited.

"We are a species that ravages, plunders, kills, destroys, rapes and enslaves in the name of progress."
Thompsoncs
Ashigaru
posted 04-23-13 09:14 AM EDT (US)     115 / 131       
Nice job. Just like I was, you're now expanding in all directions and with good economy I would like to see someone stop it. Sicily, Greece and Gaul will soon be Pontic. I'm surprised to see that you lost 33 battles though. Must have been navy battles right? I usually keep navies either big enough to not lose or move them from port to port, thus my 4 battles lost in a later stage of the campaign. On land I must be severly outclassed to lose to the ai. The only settign where the ai could do that is when it defends a stone walled city against me with good infantry.
Hannibal the Conqueror
Ashigaru
(id: HannibalBarcaXXI)
posted 04-25-13 12:11 PM EDT (US)     116 / 131       
Alright, I'm so stupid that I didnt notice that i have the hardest tests on Sunday and Monday. Update will be posted on Monday so bear with me pls

"I long for Darkness."
- Cormac McCarthy, The Sunset Limited.

"We are a species that ravages, plunders, kills, destroys, rapes and enslaves in the name of progress."
DominicusUltimus
Legate
posted 04-26-13 02:44 PM EDT (US)     117 / 131       
Don't mean to intrude, but I thought you gentlemen might like to know that Pontus has been declared as the 9th playable faction for Rome 2!



Though CA said there would only be 8 playable factions at launch, Pontus will be a free DLC (or rather Free-LC) available for download on Steam upon Rome 2's worldwide release later this year. Feel free to stop by Afty's thread to celebrate this magnificent news!

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[This message has been edited by DominicusUltimus (edited 04-26-2013 @ 02:46 PM).]

Thompsoncs
Ashigaru
posted 05-03-13 12:31 PM EDT (US)     118 / 131       
I had a few days with a bit more free time. I conquered the entire map for the 2nd time (1st time as scipii when I first got the game, easy difficulty autoresolve). End date 198 BC, 22 years since my previous screenshot. The egyptians held the entire east, and I sometimes fought 3 battles or more with them in 1 turn. I faced 3 rebellions, which I like. A few phalanxes can crush any rebellion and an exterminated city will remain happy for quite a while.

Let's see if the swap team likes to challenge my result and conquer the map before 198 BC.

Alex_the_Bold
Ashigaru
posted 05-03-13 01:30 PM EDT (US)     119 / 131       
Well, it's going to be much harder as each player has his own unique style and goals...

Invincibility lies in defence, while the possibility of victory in the attack -Sun Tzu
Akouson me, pataxon de (hit me, but first listen to me)-Themistocles to Euribiadis prior to the battle of Salamis.
General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 05-03-13 09:35 PM EDT (US)     120 / 131       
Wow. That's an impressive job Thompsoncs. I most definitely have a more slow and steady approach; takes me more like 200 years to conquer the whole map, not the 72 you took

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
Thompsoncs
Ashigaru
posted 05-04-13 05:02 AM EDT (US)     121 / 131       
Once you get a few full stacks and more money than you can ever hope to spend, you can steamroll everything. And a decent phalanx line backed up by lots of archers (only need a few cav to chase routers) can take on any egyptian army. Only a lot of pharoahs bowmen or guard can be difficult.

Deploy phalanx in a straight line, closing the gaps between the unit. The last 2 or 3 phalanxes on the flanks will cover the sides like this \_/ and archers behind. Cavalry held back behind the flanks, to prevent chariots from attacking them. And always pick high ground against the egyptians, you'll need it. The only time I took serious losses (about 500-600) against egypt and nearly lost was because I had to choice but to fight uphill (my side of the battlefield had only worse spots, so I picked the best of the worst terrain). Their archers quite messed up mine and their pharaohs guards broke through my phalanx lines. I had to fall back and regroup the survivors and sacrifice my cavalry to win the day. All other battles max 150 casualties and massive egyptians armies gone like snow before the sun :P

Btw, you should watch the m2tw youtube series by legend of totalwar. He conquered the entire map (not the new world) within 14 turns), mostly with bodyguard charges. Sadly bodyguards are less tank-like in rtw.

[This message has been edited by Thompsoncs (edited 05-04-2013 @ 05:04 AM).]

General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 05-04-13 07:31 PM EDT (US)     122 / 131       
Oh, I know that it can be done, but I prefer to make sure every town has a full army of good troops in it, which takes me far more time than the actual conquering part.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
Alex_the_Bold
Ashigaru
posted 05-20-13 05:04 AM EDT (US)     123 / 131       
So what happened to this swap? I have the time to play some turns today, if that's OK...

Invincibility lies in defence, while the possibility of victory in the attack -Sun Tzu
Akouson me, pataxon de (hit me, but first listen to me)-Themistocles to Euribiadis prior to the battle of Salamis.
General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 05-20-13 09:11 AM EDT (US)     124 / 131       
I'm going to give Hannibal one more day, then I'll shoot it over to you (unless Average Citizen really wants it this instant).

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
Alex_the_Bold
Ashigaru
posted 05-24-13 11:41 AM EDT (US)     125 / 131       
Scepter received, I'm going to play my turns now...

Invincibility lies in defence, while the possibility of victory in the attack -Sun Tzu
Akouson me, pataxon de (hit me, but first listen to me)-Themistocles to Euribiadis prior to the battle of Salamis.
General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 06-02-13 05:20 PM EDT (US)     126 / 131       
Alex finished up his turns; apparently he hasn't had a chance to upload is summary yet. However, I think it's time to pass it on to Average Citizen.

In case anybody wanted to know, we've captured two more territories, including one on Sicily, the Marius event has occurred, and we're about to take Salona.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own

[This message has been edited by General Sajaru (edited 06-02-2013 @ 05:30 PM).]

Thompsoncs
Ashigaru
posted 06-03-13 03:05 PM EDT (US)     127 / 131       
Wow, Marius triggered. Then you get the cataphract bodyguards right, should be better than the bodyguards I had to capture the world with. And enemy improved bodyguards will simply die on a phalanx point. And the Romans should be in a position that they cant really benefit anymore from the reforms.
Terikel Grayhair
Imperator
(id: Terikel706)
posted 07-05-13 12:55 PM EDT (US)     128 / 131       
Update?

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General Sajaru
Daimyo
posted 07-06-13 08:13 PM EDT (US)     129 / 131       
Most of the people I've been sending it to haven't been sending it back. If people want to continue on, please let me know, and I'll be happy to send it to the next person (who's Bulba).

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan
"Judge them not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Pick up a rifle and you change instantly from a subject to a citizen." - Jeff Cooper
"I like my enemies like James Bond likes his martinis- shaken, not stirred."
My first book, The King's Own
Bulba Khan
Ashigaru
(id: stormer)
posted 07-23-13 09:32 AM EDT (US)     130 / 131       
I'm Bulba, I havent recieved any emails so thought nothing of it.
Terikel Grayhair
Imperator
(id: Terikel706)
posted 09-17-13 01:42 AM EDT (US)     131 / 131       
With six to eight weeks of ABSOLUTELY no activity, I hereby declare this Swap Game dead and buried.

Be advised: a new one will be coming soon.

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