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Topic Subject:A.I-hall of shame
srlj3721
Ashigaru
posted 08-13-11 00:44 AM EDT (US)         
post your strangest encouters with the games ai such as my huge smimazu army 5 bow asugrui and lots of kantna samuri and my genral vs 1 genral unit what do they do they.... dismount and walk towards my forces storm tropper style i mean come on better a.i really?
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Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 08-13-11 03:55 AM EDT (US)     1 / 13       
Hi srlj3721, welcome to Shogun 2 Heaven!

That is a bit strange, but if the AI can't retreat then it is the honourable thing to do, so it isn't too historically inaccurate. I can't recall any big AI blunders of the top of my head, but I'm sure I'll think of something later.

          Hussarknight
Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 08-13-11 07:52 AM EDT (US)     2 / 13       
During a defensive siege, the coward AI were standing outside just shooting the defenders, so like an honourable man I went out to meet the foe.

I went out the gate closest to my enemy with my Katana Samurai and a few Yaris. The archers and cavalry left through the back gate, and guess what the AI did? It saw my archers coming out the back so sent its only cavalry, 2 Generals and a Light Cavalry, to try and kill them. They didn't turn back when my Yari Cavalry ran out of the gates and killed them all.

I won, as the whole army was wavering when their Generals died, so to get the most kills in possible I moved my infantry up slowly and absorbed the archer fire, giving my cavalry time to get close then chase them down.

And welcome to the forums!
srlj3721
Ashigaru
posted 08-13-11 07:05 PM EDT (US)     3 / 13       
good point Hussarknight but still it was prettty strange the ai didn't complie with the art of war and actually i was besigeing a settlement at the time and there 1 defender attacked my army thus the starnge senerio happened
Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 08-13-11 07:08 PM EDT (US)     4 / 13       
Did the General actually dismount? I have never seen the AI do that except at the end of a siege when the army has been destroyed.
srlj3721
Ashigaru
posted 08-26-11 08:19 PM EDT (US)     5 / 13       
i think it was a genral but it may have been a samuri retainers
Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 08-27-11 06:48 AM EDT (US)     6 / 13       
If you were attacking a castle then Samurai Retainers would have been the only unit, and they wouldn't dismount since they have no horses. In a field battle it would be a general, although I very very rarely see lone generals roaming the map in Shogun 2.

          Hussarknight
CommanderVideo
Ashigaru
posted 08-27-11 11:47 AM EDT (US)     7 / 13       
The thing that is annoying about the A.I. is their free generals. If you kill all of their generals, they get like 3 free generals, but if yours die, including Diamyo and such, your whole freaking campaign get fudged up by the unhappiness. I also hate that they get to keep cities that are angry as all heck yet there are no rebellions...

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Zakkleburg
Ashigaru
posted 09-07-11 04:33 AM EDT (US)     8 / 13       
I recently restarted the game as Chosokabe. I moved some Yari Ashigaru to the right, ready to catch the enemy general as he came down the hill they were stationed on. And to my surprise, the general, on his horses, charged down a hill to my Yari, in the wall formation. He went from 30 body guard units to 15 before I even lost one Yari. After the general routed the rest of the battle was pretty easy.
StevenO
Ashigaru
posted 09-07-11 05:51 PM EDT (US)     9 / 13       
When it comes to stupid I must say it is the AI's desire to charge my Yari Ashigaru with his generals.

I also find it foolish when a defending AI not only fails to set up on a hillside facing my army when they can they don't even move to occupy it until I'm half way up the other side.

When it comes to naval battles I think the AI is completely crazy when it thinks a small fleet of Japanesse ships can attack a couple NTS on a nice clear day.
Patpat
Ashigaru
posted 09-14-11 01:34 AM EDT (US)     10 / 13       
There are rebellion in AI city actually, my vassal is running around raping the Mori clan. Then the farmer start rebelling and took the city, then I took it from the farmer.

not again...

[This message has been edited by Patpat (edited 09-14-2011 @ 01:39 AM).]

Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 09-14-11 09:39 AM EDT (US)     11 / 13       
I've seen some succesful religions in AI regions as well, mostly in ones owned by recently converted Christian clans. Can come in useful sometimes to act as a bufferzone between the other clan and yourself.

          Hussarknight
toothlessgrin
Ashigaru
posted 09-26-11 09:43 AM EDT (US)     12 / 13       
Try capturing Kyoto without being provoked by the current shogunate, then defend the fortress,as the geisha guide tells you at the beginning of the game, every other clan will automatically declare war against you to maintain the status quo.

The first time I defended against 3 FULL ARMIES, they crossed the river from 3 sides (Kyotos surrounded all around by a river), proceeded 2 capture all towers & gates on the first tier, then started to climb to the 2nd tier, where i was. Once i routed that army, another full army came, but just stood around without crossing the river.

Best of all, the general would DISMOUNT and try 2 capture the square AFTER all his initial units were routed. Naturally he got slaughtered. FYI, the 2nd army didnt come to help. This happened in normal difficulty, does this happen in the other difficulties?
srlj3721
Ashigaru
posted 10-07-11 10:58 AM EDT (US)     13 / 13       
I got an all new high of ai stupidity in the new rise of the samuri
Frist an mini clan say 1-3 provenices big would attack with a full stack of levy bow and nagimata with 4 genrals or so i had a genaral and say 3 bow levy and 5 nagamtia levy no comption right? WRONG siege battle no wlss sation archers in a kind of cross fire formation 1 on the left 1 on the right 1 in the middle nagmatia levy 1 on eack archer then the rest cover the tops of the little village ona hill

battle start enmay march dum di dum di dum they march genrals 3 and 4 on the left and right wings and 1 and 2 in the middle
i attack genrals 3 and 4 with 1 archer and 1 nagmata levy. the enmey inf marches stragight at me i charge all free inf troops stragight down the hill and help them with rally and inspire by this time genrals 3 and 4 have you geuessed it routed now this has no affect on morale unless you kill the main genral so guess what i do just that gather archers 1,2and 3 still in cross fire postion and lanch fire arrows stragiht at the enmey genral slaghtuing him the troops all panic and run heroic victory

meanwhile on the campagin map the ai is now terrifed with me and i offer peace for there vasslage and 3000 gold tribute to me this has happened 3 times
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