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ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-01-11 06:35 PM EDT (US)         
I got the demo off of steam and when I start it up the screen just turns black, but I can still here sound...
Does this mean my computer can not play this game?
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Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 04-01-11 06:45 PM EDT (US)     1 / 22       
I'm not prefectly sure, since the game is still new and everything.

Is it specific or is it everything? Like is it only the openning scenes + Movies, just the menu, just...?

It may be that your graphics or video cards aren't up to it. Which one do you have? /How old is the computer you play it on? And which windows do you have? Cos Vista is a pain in the backside for most games.

Make sure you have all updates available for your computer and drivers aswell.

[This message has been edited by Liam_the_Spartan (edited 04-01-2011 @ 07:08 PM).]

ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-02-11 09:25 AM EDT (US)     2 / 22       
The picture never shows up. I can tell it gets to the menu screen because if I start randomly clicking i can here it clicking a button to go to a campaign or something.

On the side of my computer it says pavilion p6234f-b bundle.

The computer is probably 2 or 3 years old. And it has Windows 7.

And thanks for your reply.
Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 04-02-11 02:08 PM EDT (US)     3 / 22       
I've looked around for you and the problem is definitely your graphics card which isn't powerful enough to run the game. Also I'm afraid you won't be able to upgrade it as the computer hasn't got a large enough power supply. Sorry mate.

          Hussarknight
ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-02-11 04:07 PM EDT (US)     4 / 22       
Awww...=(
I'll find someway to play it...
Thanks for answering though.
Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 04-02-11 05:09 PM EDT (US)     5 / 22       
Good luck, and make sure you join our clan once you find a way to play it!
Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 04-03-11 04:04 AM EDT (US)     6 / 22       
Like Liam said, good luck and don't forget to join our clan when you can play it. And of course feel free to ask for advice here if you need any.

          Hussarknight
ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-05-11 06:06 PM EDT (US)     7 / 22       
So if I wanted to play this game I would have to get a new computer and there is no way I can use this one?
Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 04-06-11 12:14 PM EDT (US)     8 / 22       
Most likely. Sorry mate.
Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 04-06-11 03:36 PM EDT (US)     9 / 22       
If you really want to you can upgrade the power supply and the graphics card. From what I've learned via Google your PC's motherboard does have a PCI-e slot for a videocard available, and replacing the power supply shouldn't be a problem.

This article will help you find a graphics card for your budget. When you have decided what you want you can pick a PSU. For your graphics card of choice find out what it's power consumption (sometimes called TDP) is. Your current power supply is 250W, so the new one should be at least 250 + your graphics card consumption. A little more isn't too bas as it gives you a small margin, but don't go overboard on it as it'll only cost you money.

          Hussarknight
ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-06-11 07:16 PM EDT (US)     10 / 22       
Isn't power supply just how my computer is hooked up to the electricity? because if so how would you know how that is...
Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 04-07-11 02:08 AM EDT (US)     11 / 22       
The power supply unit (PSU) is the part you need to replace. What it does is it converts the electricity from the socket to electricity that the PC components can use.

The PSU is usually located at the back and top of the case. Replacing it is a matter of unscrewing the old one and screwing the new one in place, and then connecting all the components to it again.

          Hussarknight
Aftermath
HG Alumnus
posted 04-07-11 12:50 PM EDT (US)     12 / 22       
If you're unsure about upgrading your computer you should take it to a professional though, no sense in tinkering around in there without knowing what's what

If you want you can go get prices etc and we'll let you know if they're good buys or not?

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ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-09-11 04:01 PM EDT (US)     13 / 22       
It doesn't annoy anyone that they keep making games that you need a super-computer for?
I for one would be fine with M2 total war graphics...
Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 04-10-11 05:40 AM EDT (US)     14 / 22       
I suppose. I bought my laptop especially to be able to play Shogun 2.
Aftermath
HG Alumnus
posted 04-10-11 02:11 PM EDT (US)     15 / 22       
It doesn't annoy anyone that they keep making games that you need a super-computer for?
I for one would be fine with M2 total war graphics...
Such are the times I guess, as technology moves on (very quickly nowadays) the userbase wants to see better and better games to accompany it. I built this computer just over 2 years ago for 700 and it can play the game almost maximum settings on everything.

A large portion of the PC gaming userbase would not be satisfied with Medieval 2 Graphics. It's similar to buying a new console every 5 or so years.

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ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-10-11 07:49 PM EDT (US)     16 / 22       
Empire total war came out last year...
My computer couldn't play the battles, but it could play the campaign..
This time nothing...
Aftermath
HG Alumnus
posted 04-11-11 01:29 PM EDT (US)     17 / 22       
Nah Empire was out two years ago. But that's what I'm saying, the game requirements advance as does the hardware requirements.

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BastWorshiper
Sensei
posted 04-12-11 03:34 PM EDT (US)     18 / 22       
The power supply is not difficult to replace and very easy to find. It will definitely be much less expensive to replace the power supply and graphics card than it would be to replace the whole PC.


The standard placement.


Just the PSU; so you can find it if it is not in the top, rear of the box. The plug from the wall to the computer will go into the power supply; so you can just follow the plug.

Here's a video of how to replace the PSU.
I think the guy said he was replacing his 300W PSU with a 650. That is seriously overboard. I run a dual core processor and graphics card that can just barely handle the game with a 305W PSU, and you shouldn't need anymore than that.


As for the off-topic discussion, I'm with you Ele. I don't need fancy graphics. In fact, I think gameplay has suffered in a lot of cases as a result of the attempt to make the game prettier. I still love and play X-Com and Master of Magic. Those are two of my favorite games of all time. They're still challenging, fun and addictive and they came out in the early- to mid-1990s. The graphics are awful by today's standards and there are bugs that would never persist in today's market with downloadable patches, but the gameplay is still exceptional.

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Wasting time is merely an occupation then, and a most exhausting one. Idleness, like kisses, to be sweet must be stolen." -- Jerome K. Jerome

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ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-12-11 06:44 PM EDT (US)     19 / 22       
But the thing is if I replace now, in a couple of years they will come out with a new game that these new upgrades won't work...
but if it is rtw2 i will defenitely find a way to play that

[This message has been edited by ElephantLord (edited 04-12-2011 @ 06:49 PM).]

Gnarlyhotep
Ashigaru
posted 04-12-11 07:24 PM EDT (US)     20 / 22       
It's not that frequent of a cycle anymore. A decent vidcard bought now, from new generation, will last a good 4 years, if not 5. Admittedly, you'll have to turn graphics settings lower and lower as more times goes on, but games willr emain playable unless there's a huge graphical breakthrough.
ElephantLord
Ashigaru
posted 04-13-11 02:37 PM EDT (US)     21 / 22       
Mmk so i dont want a super good one or a super crappy one of each
so if i buy one that is kind of int he middle for both how much woudl it cost?
Gnarlyhotep
Ashigaru
posted 04-14-11 00:04 AM EDT (US)     22 / 22       
Here's a fairly good guide.

I recommend a Radeon 6850 if you can spare the cash for it, they're pretty quality cards and aren't that bad on the pocketbook, all things considered. If that's out of your range, there's some good cards for a lower price there too.
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