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Topic Subject:Retainers
BastWorshiper
Sensei
posted 04-19-11 10:14 AM EDT (US)         
I thought it might be helpful to discuss the various retainers to which our avatars have access. Share your experiences with your retainers or retainers your opponents have used, and let us know if you felt they were not worth the slot or if they were a don't-leave-for-the-battlefield-without-them value. Perhaps, we can continually update the OP to summarize the various retainers. Is a rating system in order?

My MP career is young; so I've only used a few retainers. Along with our clan's cavalry retainer that reduces melee casualties, I've been using the retainer that gives your melee cavalry +2 attack. Since I usually use at least 3 units of cavalry (1 or 2 Yari Cav and 1 or 2 Light Cav), this has been a valuable combination.

I sometimes use the Trading Post retainer instead, which offers of 5% reduction of costs for units. This allows me to field 1 or 2 more units in a battle, which can make a difference. Especially if I end up matched up against an 8 to 10 star general (as a 2 star), I can use the extra units to swamp his generally higher quality army.

I just received the Metsuke Inspector, which gives a morale penalty to any opponents inside my avatar's area of influence when I use the rally ability, presumably in addition to the rally ability's normal effects. I haven't fought a battle with this retainer, yet; but I think it can have a significant impact as long as I'm still facing mostly ashigaru armies. If used at the right time, I expect it can completely change the tides of a battle.

The most frustrating retainer I've faced is not the Untrained Fugu Cook, although that one is definitely annoying. It is, rather, Unbalanced Spears, which gives a -5 to melee defense for spear units. I still use several spear units, and since they are mostly ashigaru, I was very quickly crushed by my opponent.

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Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 05-02-11 04:32 PM EDT (US)     1 / 6       
Currently I usually use these retainers: Untrained Fugu Chef (-2 attack for enemy infantry) Master swordman (Or something like that)(+1 attack for all infantry) and the third one just depends on what my army consists of.

Although i really like the sound of the Unbalanced spears retainer
Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 05-17-11 03:54 AM EDT (US)     2 / 6       
I thought I answered this one some time ago, but apparently I didnīt, so here goes.

I currently use an army with a lot of naginata warrior monks, which I beef up with the Moshaki Portable Shrine (+2 attack for monks) and the Yari Master (+1 defence for all spears) and I also use the Untrained Fugu Cook to make the difference even bigger.

However, the latest patch notes mentioned they've weakened the Naginata Warrior Monks, so I think I'll have to change that strategy.

          Hussarknight
Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 05-19-11 03:30 PM EDT (US)     3 / 6       
I wish it told you what retainers the enemy has. Usually it says what retainers are used against you, like Fugu chef, but ones that give bonuses to the enemy are hidden.

It's so annoying having a better unit lose Vs an ashigaru becasue of all the retainers.
Hussarknight
Seraph Emeritus
posted 05-20-11 02:46 AM EDT (US)     4 / 6       
I like how they're hidden from you, keeps the battle more tense since you can never be sure how a fight will turn out.

          Hussarknight
Gnarlyhotep
Ashigaru
posted 05-20-11 11:41 AM EDT (US)     5 / 6       
It does require you to be much more thoughtful, and cautious of matchups.

I haven't played much multiplayer the last couple of weeks, but I know I'm using the Untrained Fugu Cook and the Sword Drill Instructor. I tend to roll katana heavy, so I prefer bonuses that really focus on the sword.
Liam_the_Spartan
Banned
posted 05-20-11 01:58 PM EDT (US)     6 / 6       
I havent played much online either. I'm hoping I can again soon though.
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